Sukkah Keva: Learning and Keilim in the Sukkah
The sugya
The Mishnah says that all seven days a person makes his sukkah keva and his house arai. It then discusses rain (mishetisrach hamikpah) and the mashal of the eved. The Braisa explains what keva means: nice keilim, linens, eating, drinking, strolling and learning in the sukkah. The Gemara asks from Rava that tenuy may be outside the sukkah, and answers migras versus iyuni, illustrated by Rabbah bar Chama before Rav Chisda. The shiur then covered Rava on which keilim stay in the sukkah: drinking vessels, food vessels, pitchers, and the shraga in a large versus small sukkah. It ended with a review from 28b line 43.
Step by step (shakla v’tarya)
- MishnahThe Mishnah says all seven days a person makes his sukkah keva and his house arai. The Rebbi called this the summary and whole idea of the second half of the perek.
- MishnahIf it rains, from when is it muttar to leave? From when the porridge (mikpah) would spoil.
- MishnahThe mashal is an eved who comes to pour a cup of wine for his master and gets the pitcher thrown in his face, as if to say 'thanks but no thanks'.
- GemaraThe Braisa repeats the Mishnah and adds keitzad: nice keilim and nice linens are brought up to the sukkah, and one eats, drinks and strolls in the sukkah.
- Ra'ayahThe source is teshvu ke'ein taduru: dwell in the sukkah just as one lives in one's own house.
- GemaraEach stage adds something. The second Braisa adds that a person learns (meshanen) in the sukkah.
- KashaEini? Rava says mikra and mishnah are done in the sukkah (b'metalelta), but tenuy is done outside the sukkah.
- Tenuy means real Gemara learning, which needs more concentration and focus. That can be done outside the sukkah.
- TeirutzHa b'migras, ha b'iyuni. Migras means review of something familiar that goes smoothly, and that is done in the sukkah. Iyuni means really delving into it, and that may be done outside.
- Ra'ayahRabbah bar Chama and others standing before Rav Chisda would first quickly run through the Gemara together (merahatei), then delve into the sevara (mi'ayenei b'sevara).
- The RebbiThe distinction is not first time versus second time but how one approaches the learning. Reviewing what the Rebbi said is girsa, done in the sukkah. In-depth work is iyun and can be outside.
- GemaraRava: drinking vessels may remain in the sukkah after use. Food vessels are removed from the sukkah once one finishes eating.
- The RebbiEven though one lives in the sukkah, it is used only in ways that are not bizuy. Empty cups do not bother anyone, but leftover food is less pleasant and should be removed.
- GemaraChatzva (pottery pitcher) and shachil (wooden pitcher) go outside the sukkah.
- The Rebbi thinks there is a halachah that pots are not brought into the sukkah. His mother would serve soup from a tureen, not the pot. He was unsure what the modern equivalent is, perhaps something more industrial.
- GemaraA shraga (pottery lamp, not a nice silver one) stays in the sukkah, and some say it goes outside. It seems to be a disagreement.
- TeirutzV'lo pligi: in a large sukkah it may be left in, since it does not draw attention and is not a bizayon. In a small sukkah it must be removed.
- ShitahA different mahalach: in a small sukkah the issue is fire hazard. On that view the question is whether one may bring the shraga in at all, not what to do after it goes out.
- ShitahThe main approach the Rebbi gave: all these statements concern what is respectful for the sukkah. Empty glasses are fine, food plates are not, and liquid pitchers (industrial) are not. The shraga depends on the size of the sukkah.
- ChazarahReview from 28b line 43: the Mishnah, the first Braisa (extension one), the second Braisa adding meshanen (extension two), the kasha from Rava, the teirutz of migras versus iyun, the Rabbah bar Chama ma'aseh, and Rava on keilim through the shraga.
Kashas
- Eini? The Braisa says one learns in the sukkah, but Rava says tenuy is done outside the sukkah.
Teirutzim
- Migras (smooth review of what is familiar) is in the sukkah. Iyun (delving in) may be outside.
- The two versions about the shraga do not argue: a large sukkah allows leaving it in, a small sukkah requires removing it.
Rashi & Tosafos
- Rashi: Rashi mentions the open air (avir). The Rebbi understood that learning in the open air was more pleasant.
Mareh mekomos
- Pasuk teshvu ke'ein taduru: the source that the sukkah is treated like one's dwelling.
- A halachah the Rebbi recalled (source not specified) that pots are not brought into the sukkah.
The Rebbi’s chiddushim
- Each stage builds on the last: the Mishnah, then a Braisa with examples, then a Braisa adding learning in the sukkah.
- Metalelta is Aramaic for sukkah, from tzeil (shade).
- Reading Chumash or Mishnayos in the sukkah is fine. A certain level of concentration may require one's usual comfortable learning space (e.g. basement, coffee machine).
- Migras is like girsa: a hazarah of something you know well can take two minutes because it goes smoothly.
- Someone who knows a Gemara b'kinyan and now does iyun with Rishonim and Acharonim may do so outside the sukkah.
- Empty wine cups left after a meal do not bother anyone, but leftover food (e.g. sesame chicken) should be taken out.
- A small sukkah means something like seven by seven, the smallest size.
Unclear in recording
- A comparison attributed to Rashi about the concentration needed for learning (something like 'a dimmed star') is unclear in recording.
- An exchange about Rashi and discomfort (mitzta'er): a participant noted that if uncomfortable one need not be in the sukkah at all. The Rebbi's full reply is unclear in recording.
- A side discussion about a barbecue grill in or near the sukkah is unclear in recording. The Rebbi mentioned his family made a barbecue right outside the sukkah.
- A remark that the Gemara qualifies the light and not the pottery, and about once the light goes out, is unclear in recording.
- A discussion of whether the pitchers cannot be brought in at all or only must be cleared, and of bringing a pitcher in to pour everyone a cup, is unclear in recording.
Drafted from the recording of the shiur, for chazarah. Torah terms follow the Rebbi’s own words; anything that could not be made out is marked “unclear in recording”. Tap a time to hear that point. Corrections welcome.